ONUG Open Hybrid Cloud Working Group–January 19, 2017 Meeting Notes
BY BOB WYSOCKI, GE
Team – great conversation this week – we have a plan that will set us up for success for Spring ONUG; now it is just on us to execute!
EXEC SUMMARY
AWS and Microsoft have agreed to send representation to ONUG Spring Apr 25/26 in San Fran at UCSF
- Providers will be asked to respond to cross-industry requirements and challenges around on-boarding and lifecycle management of enterprise applications into public cloud
- Google and IBM Softlayer have both been invited as 3rd participant
- INPUT SOUGHT (1 of 2): Please reply-to-all if you have a preference of Google or IBM as 3rd provider to participate
INPUT SOUGHT (2 of 2): Each HCWG member should consider their priorities and environment and share your top 5 barriers/gaps to onboarding of workloads into cloud; Less is more – don’t feel you have to provide 5; just your top issues
- Issue that you are facing – give short description such that anyone reading this independently will have a good understanding of it
- Map this Barrier to Hybrid Cloud Framework – in which area of the framework are you experiencing the barrier (Cloud provider, Broker, Internal Infra/Process)
Framework located at http://www.onug.net/onug-content-downloads/ - Succinctly describe the business impact that this limitation is having on your business – what benefits is it preventing you from reaching; what do you currently have to do to get around this barrier
- Express what you might expect from Cloud Providers as a solution to this barrier
Responses should be sent by COB Mon Jan 30th: please reply to the whole group emailing your response to hybridcloud@opennetworkingusergroup.com so we can see each other’s responses
I will collate responses for our next meeting on Thu Feb 2nd 1pm US eastern; Next meeting: we will review HCWG input and multi-vote to consolidate responses
DETAILS
Plan for Next ONUG: Share top 5 concerns/barriers with Cloud providers 1 month before Spring meeting; Give each provider 20 min each with 10 min Q&A;
- Reconvene at end of event: what did we learn; were the responses something we can we work with, or what needs to change with the providers
Carlos – kicked off of WG & ensuing discussion
– Focus will be to collaborate, bring in ideas… open forum – we all contribute with ideas, new things to bring up
– In responding with top barriers – Feel free to include technical as well as non-technical issues – (eg, compliance concerns, contracts/lock-in, organizational challenges)
– Example pain points discussed during call
• Lack of common mechanism to deploy to multiple cloud providers
Would be helpful to have same semantics when provisioning minimum set of commodity services (core compute, storage, NW, identity/access mgmt) – understand differentiating/higher-value-added services would be different
In rush to get to cloud, we are building our apps using Cloud-proprietary mechanisms/api’s/security services on top that create lock-in, and will prevent ease of portability in the future to another provider
Lack of common data model to consume services – even covering most broad 80% of commodity services would help us focus our resources on remaining 20% vs re-learn new Provider mechanism on 80% non-differentiated
Lack of common TCO model to compare public/private cloud
Nick working with Eric at 451… asked them to do real-world TCO analysis around workload in private cloud vs public cloud – a model that people can buy into, make their own choice
• Will look for ONUG members to offer resources/people to speak anonymously to help them craft real model based on our collective experience to date
• Analogy: Nutrional facts label… food says 200 calories – but where are details of where these come from
• Need standard/detailed model to do cost comparison between public, private – huge barrier – truth in advertising
Cloud resource itself may save money but what about when you add services on top to secure it
Lean/Agile POC’s are difficult
Business wants to do POC but in order to try, we need to secure it anyway – green $ out the door to do POC – not same as startup doing non-regulated – may take 4-5 months to do regulated POC
• Cloud Providers should be more holistic in educating businesses about what is needed to secure services and be compliant
Can’t sell us on use of cheap infra resources but then not assist in pointing out/educating what is required to meet risk/compliance controls – need more help here
Meeting Attendees:
Andy Lee – Principal Kaiser Permante; projects – build out Cloud IC nw using Equinix exchange
Carlos Matos – Fidelity Investments – leads Infra Arch team – part of public/private cloud arch, including services, ext/int platforms
Harmette Shanny- N Networks, working on hybrid cloud
Jim Yunam – UPS – R&D on long horizon strategic tech for biz disruptions
Linda Dunbar – Huawei – Cloud VPN Solutions – looking to see rqmts from diff end user community and how to support them
Michale Eckhoff – HV Virtual Cloud – Citigroup – replacing Ali on HCWG
Michale Winston – Dir Global NW Arch at 1st Data – in process of build Cloud Connector zone in infra, look at Cloud Exchange for retail customers
Nelson Tai – Pfizer – global nw engineering – expand cloud connectivity globally across regions – look for ideas, what services, strategies
Sunil Patel – Gap, deploying Cloud, Equinix – live on Azure, looking at others
Ted Turner – Performance Analysis at Intuit – move apps not customer-facing to cloud, couple components get closer to edge, do caching at edge
Bob Wysocki – VP Network Edge Product Engineering – build out Cloud meet-me at Equinix currently connected to AWS, Azure/O365, Virtustream; in engagement with Oracle
Nick Lippis – ONUG Leader
Jeannette Tibbits – Nick’s EA