ONUG Open Hybrid Cloud Working Group–February 2, 2017 Meeting Notes
By BOB WYSOCKI, GE
(Please reply if you will be at RSA – those that are going (I will be there) can seek each other out as desired)
EXEC SUMMARY
TCO MODEL FOR HYBRID CLOUD: Eric Hanselman of 451 Research described the process he will use with the ONUG HCWG to develop a broad TCO model for private/public cloud
- Establish scope/scale with ONUG Board:
- intended to cover both non-recurring start-up, deployment costs as well as ongoing run cost
- will run across disciplines: technical, operational, governance
- Establish Use Cases with HCWG members
- Develop questionnaire & conduct interviews
- Review/Publish results
- Further deep dive (optional) with those that are interested
ACTIONS: 451 to provide write-up of what to expect as well as distribute their current Cloud Pricing Index material
IDENTIFYING BARRIERS TO CLOUD:
- Received 4 inputs to date from Pfizer, Fidelity, FedEx and 1st Data
- ACTIONS: Balance of HCWG will seek to provide input for next meeting – Bob will seek to do initial affinity diagram
PARTNERSHIP WITH EC3:
EC3 group has requested that HCWG attend meeting at Goldman Sachs on Feb 27th – identify how they can support what we are are doing and vice versa; how to best engage for mutual benefit
ACTIONS: Nick, Carlos, Bob to attend
EC3 & HCWG share some characteristics, not others
- EC3 organized by Intel; mostly for financial services, focused on developing common, standardized processes, elements that they require from CSP; Microsoft & Google participate; not much AWS
- HCWG is a mxi of CSP’s and IT professionals across much broader section of industry – we aren’t organized by a vendor, self-organized
DETAILS
451 will leverage their Cloud pricing index data set; they have a few years of running time;
Effort launched will be to extend CPI into into more specific enterprise TCO – model will run across public cloud providers, private cloud, Openstack
- Identify nature of cost model – what it will encompass – how far to go in terms of cost capability – steady state environments, individual execution
- Also include NRC – establishing cloud connectivity, up front engineering, retargeting orchestration into multiple venues
- Will tease out individual org cost for each factor
- Longer-term piece
- Labor and integration, infra costs, interconnection requirements
- Big piece of the model– how to normalize based on model workloads/need to validate that they meet what we are deploying
Guesstimate of involvement: 6-8 hour commitment in interview process, data gathering to put that together
Expect to begin 3rd or 4th week of Feb – Feb 13th or 20th
451 will generate a write-up of what to expect as well as circulate their current Cloud Pricing Index material
451: will bring a Straw man to start and propose people/roles to include from the enterprise
Not expected to sit down with only one person per company – will need to have multiple people per org – will give time to assemble people, schedule – will need product mgr, technical, etc
Expectation it will be iterative process – if can get everyone together great, probability is low so will likely have multiple meetings per enterprise
- Q) What about the sensitivity of info that we can share – what level it needs to be (financial industry, compliance)
- A) Expectation – reasonable depth about actual cost; results will be retained by 451 and not shared with group; not serious deep dive in salary structure – relatively high level
Abstracted, not identifiable to participant; happy to do NDA but should not be required
Will agree on level of depth during interview process
Comment: Need to include up-front cost to create automation platform, refactor apps, execute fundamental architecture change, establish governance & interconnection model, etc – These are critical as they represent barriers to entry
Also – If wish to do business with 3 providers – some of these factors are not common across CSP’s (eg, automation, governance) – they are not abstracted today so the non-recurring cost grows larger
Meeting Attendees
Colin Fraser – Chicago Transit Authority
Michael Wynston – 1st Data
Jim Younan – UBS
Raj Mathialagan –
Carlos Mater – Fidelity Investments
Snehal Patel – The Gap
Lev Feldman – Citi
Bob Wysocki – GE
Manoj Koshti – Ellie Mae
Tina Zhang – Cisco
Michael Langdon – Juniper
Harmeet Sahni – Nuage
Senad Palislamovic – Nuage
Yang Yang – Huawei
Linda Dunbar – Huawei
Eric Hanselman – 451 Research
Jeannette Tibbits – ONUG
Nick Lippis – ONUG
Bob Wysocki
Network Edge Leader
GE Digital